[laughs]. Kris Hampton: I’m just here learning so it’s fine. Did your fingers get stronger? Also, I have my kids at home now so we’re trying to do homeschooling with them and it’s giving me a whole new respect for teachers. Steve Bechtel: I’m just too busy so I’m not exercising at this time. Kris Hampton: Again, I think these guys have really hit on it but as a former gymnastics coach and gymnast, it was really rare that gymnasts back then used weight in their training at all. Tom Randall: [laughs] In answer to the question, number one would be to use your training history to inform what you do when you’re back at home. You just mentioned repeaters. Kris Hampton: I mean, I think these guys have pretty much covered it. You don’t have to sit around and go, ‘Well, I would workout if I had a campus board in my living room.’ It’s more important to say, “Oh yeah. Born on 3/16/77 in Lincoln to Marvin and Patricia (Cunningham) Bechtel. Those things speed up your process quite a bit. It’s really easy to just be like, ‘I’m exhausted emotionally from this pandemic and work and all the things. Stephen Bechtel attended Purdue University, where he was a member of Beta Theta Pi, receiving a Bachelor of Science degree in civil engineering in 1946. Image source: Gordon Wiltsie. What got you going a year ago? You’re almost in one of those baby bouncers that you put your kids in in a doorway when they’re really young. If you’re not going to get back to the route that you’re excited about that you need that endurance for until the fall, then maybe you don’t need to be so concerned about hanging onto that endurance right now. [11] Bechtel received the Award of Excellence from Engineering News-Record for his leadership of Bechtel Corporation. The first question I’m going to pose is: how, in general, should people be training at home if they’re going to keep training, or should we keep training? I don’t have my fingerboard in the cellar, for example, where all of the cracks are, I have it next to the kitchen. Can you tell us a little about yourself? You can do this with just general strength exercises as well if you’re really intentional and trying to be really aware of how your body is moving, what your tension is like, what muscles seem to be working the most in different parts of the movement. I think that was a pretty thorough answer to that question. ‎Show The TrainingBeta Podcast: A Climbing Training Podcast, Ep Steve Bechtel, Kris Hampton, and Tom Randall on Training at Home - Apr 9, 2020 Kris is a very good teacher and he has a lot of important and useful things to say so definitely check out his website. In general, just trying to get something going that is going to build a basic capacity for you fitness-wise. I also have my office manager who was here staying with us for a little while and has gotten locked in with us as well. I think a lot of people are out there wondering, ‘How am I supposed to maintain my endurance through all of this?’ Kris, what do you think about that? Today on the podcast I have three of my very favorite trainers in the world. I have two daughters, one who is five and one who is eight. Your new habit is going to involve new things and you need to start enforcing those because habit becomes an anchor on which you can reduce your stress. For me, it really hasn’t changed what we do all that much but it did send me into: ‘make sure all my coaches are okay, make sure everybody’s still making money but also safe and their families are good.’ We all kind of went into overdrive trying to get our clients set up with whatever they had at home to make sure everybody was going to make it through this and try to stay sane through it. You mentioned motivationally and I want to pivot to motivation because it seems to be on a lot of peoples’ minds. Like Tom mentioned a little bit earlier, we don’t want to start from a place of lack, like all of the things we don’t have. Steve Bechtel is a Lander, Wyoming-based climber, trainer, author, and business owner. Everybody was all trained up and then this thing happened and we got sidelined. I’ll tell people where they can find you. Neely Quinn: I’m going to ask about how that’s affecting your training and how other people in the same situation can go about continuing to train through that. If we look at our home setups, most people may have a little set of dumbbells and a hangboard, and some of them are actually in a shelter in place order where they aren’t supposed to be leaving the house except to go shopping. You come back into the game and you feel awful. I need somebody to just tell me what to do with training because I don’t like thinking about it. I really do like the tempo-style, slow pace like Tom was mentioning. Kris Hampton: I am Kris Hampton. We should start with the things that we do. Neely Quinn: Okay. A lot of it is actually quite submaximal and down at maybe 70%, 75%, 80%. We can do a whole lot there. About Steve Bechtel. We make time for it every day. I’ll have a phone call at this time, I have to do programming at this time, so we each had a calendar that we worked from anyway. I think a lot of people miss that to begin with and that gets me really psyched. I guess I’ll go over here and watch some TV.’ Our tendency is to be less active. Just to remind you, we do have that ebook for you if you want help with your training at home beyond what they just told you. Lastly I would say that any exercises that you do do at home in terms of a training sense, once you’ve mastered them think about dropping the intensity on them but making the skill required to execute them really, well, quite tricky. Of course, you also have to bear in mind the body positions and where your arms are above your head as well. I agree with Tom totally that you should try to take what you were doing before and keep that same level, that same frequency, and not ramp it up massively. Try to find something fun to do. Was it not? That’s good to hear. Neely Quinn: I have one last question for you guys and this is more of a cautionary question. I think very often we get into a mindset of, ‘How much can I take? Kris has this quaranteam area of his website. We’re all able to talk to each other and see each other’s faces during this whole thing, it’s just sort of a Jetsons idea. It’s pretty clear if you look at a gymnast and the way they can move their body and how explosive they are that you don’t have to have heavy weights to get a good workout, to get a good strength or power stimulus. | Feb 23, 2017. We’re left here trying to train at home and maintain the strength and fitness that we’ve gained from training this year and beyond. In general, what do you think people should be doing at home? There is an element to it that should feel familiar. It was way harder than you think! As much as Kris said earlier about the dumb videos we see of people climbing around their houses and doing all those sorts of things, I actually think that basically playing around in your house and doing silly challenges and things that involve climbing muscles – like, I love where you see people climbing around their partner and climbing under tables. I love it. I couldn’t believe it. Then Ellen will do that on the opposite days and I’ll be at home with the kids. The other end of the spectrum is to take your bodyweight movements and to add explosiveness. I want to at least be able to get back to peak performance pretty quickly. [laughs] No, that’s kind of where everybody is going. The gyms are closed. I’ve actually even been looking for ways to stay motivated. More Buying Choices $21.44 (4 used & new offers) Logical Progression: Using Nonlinear Periodization for Year-Round Climbing Performance. It’s definitely peoples’ tendencies to be like, ‘Well, normally I climb for a couple hours 3-4 days a week and sometimes a couple times a week I do a half hour to an hour of training on top of that.’ It might be more or less than that. Just because you’re bored and you’re going off the walls, don’t break from that. You can come up with a pretty good cycle of two days a week hangboard, two days a week of bodyweight training, and five days a week of general aerobic capacity training. As Steve said, depending on how long this goes on for, I think some people are going to find that if they spend huge amounts of time with their arms above their head doing this high intensity work they may need to look at different arm and shoulder positions, body positions, and work out ways to train in a more balanced and appropriate way. Otherwise it ends up being this eternal sick day of, ‘Eh, I guess I’ll eat a little something. Kris, obviously you have a child but she’s older and doesn’t live with you anymore. [7], The BSA acquired new property near Beckley, West Virginia for a new high adventure base in 2009. It went from this amazing family where I felt so connected to everyone that I worked with to this really strange distant thing, which we’re used to with clients but interpersonally with the team it’s really weird. I think that as long as we’re intentional and aware in whatever our training is, it’s going to be helpful for skill down the road. I know that you guys have all been on the show before and most people know who you are but we’re going to go through and have you introduce yourselves. In my situation I work from home and I’m usually here by myself all day and now I have my wife, who is a social worker at the schools here in Lander, at home and doing Zoom meetings with her colleagues as well as with students. Project Description . I really love climbing on a system board, like a 40-50° system board. The only thing I would add is a lot of us are stuck in a new situation with our spouses or housemates or whatever it might be. I think that if what you were doing before was working, then there is no reason to try to ramp it up. I think this is a really big mistake, especially as people might tend to do it very quickly and kind of jump into it too fast and too hard. 3,674 Followers, 1,203 Following, 419 Posts - See Instagram photos and videos from Steve Bechtel (@stevebechtel) Timing was really, really tricky. Yeah, no, don’t do that at all. That’s personally what I like. I was totally joking but that was a really great answer to my dumb joke. Log In. Neely Quinn: [laughs] Please give that out. What are you telling your clients, in general, to do that have minimal equipment and what are some of the workouts, specifically? That’s just going to build awareness that you can then apply later on onto the wall while you’re climbing. In my situation I work from home and I’m usually here by myself all day and now I have my wife, who is a social worker at the schools here in Lander, at home and doing Zoom meetings with her colleagues as well as with students. It’s good to put challenges within exercises themselves because it challenges you mentally and I think it’s good to not end up becoming that climber who is just the wooden plank that is really good at hanging off an edge but literally moves like a metal fork. Those are expensive to maintain so when we stop doing endurance activity with a certain muscle group, like our forearms, that tends to de-train pretty quickly. I had elbow surgery maybe 12-14 years ago and I thought, ‘Oh man, this is going to suck. You have those three factors that you’re essentially working when you’re doing any kind of endurance workout. I think the most important thing is for people to think in the long term, not like, ‘I need the world’s strongest fingers in the next three weeks.’ They need to be thinking about the fact that now is an opportunity to work on things that they might not normally be able to address. Kind of on the same topic of motivation is some people have new responsibilities at home, if they have children especially. It’s quite interesting if you drop one foot out and you just do it with one foot on, that’s a way that suddenly makes a very, very standard fingerboard endurance workout where you put your feet on a solid object like a chair, if you do it on a moveable object where things move around, it adds a skill level into it. The main thing is to make sure that we’re keeping that athlete uninjured and progressing slightly in their strength, in whatever particular facet of strength that we’re working in. I think going back, like Tom said, and look at the last 3-6 months and go: ‘This is how much I did of focused training,’ and then break it down and say, ‘How much time did I really spend hanging by my fingers? TBP 036 :: Steve Bechtel Interview #2 Neely Quinn 2020-02-23T16:43:26+00:00. Tom Randall: An example of that would be – I don’t know if you guys have ever tried this. I’m going to move on to one of the last questions. Okay. Achetez neuf ou d'occasion Was it not? Cool. Neely Quinn: Even though a lot of your training has been online and from afar to begin with, right? I’m just not going to do that to myself,’ so I went, ‘It’s not realistic. [12], The S. D. Bechtel Jr. Foundation and the Stephen Bechtel Fund, National president of the Boy Scouts of America, The Summit Bechtel Family National Scout Reserve. Keep that balance of focused training in your time at home. Tuesday and Thursday from 6:00AM-midnight. TrainingBeta is a site dedicated to training for rock climbing. I’ll come down here and workout on the bouldering wall or on the campus board and I’ll usually just do that on a somewhat regular schedule, about three days a week. They’re all super smart, really funny, and I had a really good time with them as always. I would suggest to people to examine whether you really even need the endurance right now. That can be really demotivating to spend way too much time, especially working on stamina, on the hangboard. I did zero for two weeks. In this interview, I talked with trainers Steve Bechtel, Kris Hampton, and Tom Randall about how they’re guiding their clients to train at home during the COVID-19 pandemic. Kris Hampton: Steve is doing them through his gym. You’re training but you’re resting adequately. Go test and see how strong your fingers are on a certain edge then do your training for 2-3 weeks. I’ve been hearing about people who can’t even get weights on eBay and is it called Craigslist in the US? Make a list of things you do have and build your regime on what you can do around those things.” Be realistic because otherwise you’re just making your life a lot harder and you will get demotivated by that. Combine those and add those together and that might be a more appropriate replica or substitution for that session. Steve “Bludwynd” Bechtel, 43, from Lincoln, NE died on 5/29/2020. Do 8-12 progressed hangboard sessions in that mode and then switch to a different stimulus. Neely Quinn: Can you give me an example of an exercise you can put a lot of skill into? [laughs] No, that’s kind of where everybody is going. It’s difficult to say. Steve Bechtel: I think it’s really important to take a good look at what the loading cycle of your training is and how much time you spend at each of these intensities. For example, the Amy Wroe Bechtel Recovery Headquarters ensured Amy’s picture was in the media and … It went from this amazing family where I felt so connected to everyone that I worked with to this really strange distant thing, which we’re used to with clients but interpersonally with the team it’s really weird. He went on to co-create Lattice Training with Ollie Torr (who also has been on the show), where he and a team of coaches use data driven tools to help climbers around the world get stronger. Integrated core work, too, like hanging on the hangboard or hanging onto some jugs and doing leg raises or front levers are fabulous works to do. Stay healthy and safe and hopefully I’ll see you under different circumstances soon. Those are two things that we don’t really think about. They’re both off school and they now get homeschooled. I’m going to move on to one of the last questions. We also talk about if it matters what finger protocol you do and which ones are best, and if there’s any way to train movement, skills, or tension without an actual climbing wall. Tom Randall: There’s a few different things we’re trying to look at. I mean, I think these guys have pretty much covered it. I’ll have a phone call at this time, I have to do programming at this time, so we each had a calendar that we worked from anyway. You mentioned motivationally and I want to pivot to motivation because it seems to be on a lot of peoples’ minds. Kris Hampton: Like you said, it’s going to be very different depending on your training history and what level you were at prior to this. I’m just going to write it off and I’m just not going to do anything for two weeks. Then on the hangboards I think the lower intensity stuff is the ticket and we’re right in the same parameters that Tom suggested, unloading things or going for very short sessions. So yeah, general activity and looking at it in terms of doing a small calisthenic circuit that keeps your heart rate at a certain level to maintain some upper body endurance in that way. Bechtel donated $50 million towards the new base which has been named The Summit Bechtel Family National Scout Reserve. You guys, Tom and Steve, have young kids. Like Tom and Lattice, we’re also a mostly remote, mostly online company that works with climbers. Please accept Echovita’s sincere condolences. It’s just kind of like a giant whirlpool of every day being a bit different than the previous. Steve Bechtel, Jr., (pictured)led the global engineering and construction firm his father Warren founded until 1990. We should start with the things that we do. Steve Bechtel's Climb Strong features climbing training articles and training programs for bouldering, rock climbing, and alpine climbing. It’s sort of crazy for them. Steve Bechtel is a strength coach and the founder of Climb Strong. We’re not going to totally suck after this. Kris Hampton: I saw a question on your Facebook post, Neely, that I think deserves a point. We’re programming really similar to what these guys are doing. You can develop core tension really well through bodyweight progressions and things like that. I really appreciate you listening all the way to the end. You can do a session of that a week, or once every other week, and have plenty of base for your endurance when you need to pick it back up down the road. You can find us on social media @trainingbeta, you can find us on our Facebook training group at, , you can donate to us if you want to support us by going to, , and if you want to wear our stuff you can go to, TBP 162 :: Dr. Tyler Nelson on Endurance Training for Fingers, TBP 161 :: Madeleine Crane on Overcoming the Fear of Falling, TBP 160 :: Dietitian Marisa Michael Explains Intuitive Eating, TBP 159 :: Alex Stiger on How Climbing Harder Made Her A Better Coach, TBP 158 :: Diana Rodgers on How Meat Can Help the Environment and Our Health, TBP 157 :: John Brosler on Training for Speed Climbing, What we should be doing while training at home, How much training to do right now vs how much we normally do, How they’ve fit new homeschooling in with work and training. We’re really limited in that way. Is that generally what you’re having people do? Use that time to be tactical and to perform and to feel like a climber or someone who is performing again. I think that was a pretty thorough answer to that question. If you want somebody to tell you, ‘Do this exercise then this exercise and then this one for this long, and then rest, and then do it again, then put your fingers on this grip of the hangboard and hold on for this long,’ that’s what the ebook is all about. I think that if what you were doing before was working, then there is no reason to try to ramp it up. [laughs] In answer to the question, number one would be to use your training history to inform what you do when you’re back at home. I saw a question on your Facebook post, Neely, that I think deserves a point. I’ll talk to you on the other side. If you can do a pull-up really easily and you can do 20 of them in a row, just try doing 3 pull-ups in a row and taking 15 seconds to do each of those pull-ups. We’ve tried to provide you guys with a lot of resources on the site at TrainingBeta. Podcast is on iTunes is HERE Direct Download: LINK Date: November 25th, 2015. What we did in the ebook is provide you with a bunch of different exercises depending on what equipment you have available, whether that’s just your bodyweight or a TRX system or something similar, or just a single weight or a single kettlebell. Even though I was off for maybe a year I still came right back into it. [9] He is the 1980 recipient of the Hoover Medal which commemorates the civic and humanitarian achievements of engineers. Then we start progressing that but you’ve got to have an all new plan, like Tom was saying, to go from where we are now to increased volume and intensity in the new style of training that you’re doing. It’s real hard to go, ‘Oh yeah, I’m going to get better at my footwork or whatever while I’m locked in my apartment.’ We need to look in terms of just keeping the general athlete in good enough fitness. It takes a bit more time but can also be maintained with very little detriment to other parts of your climbing training activity and your time use within the home environment. I would say anything beyond what you were doing before is likely too much at this point. Yeah, I think people are having to get real creative about space. Steve Bechtel remained the prime “person of interest” in Amy’s disappearance for many years. They are three of the most well-known trainers in climbing, and having them all sit for the same interview and answer the same questions created a wealth of knowledge and wisdom for us all. Gerald Ford asked Bechtel to serve on the President’s Labor-Management Committee. Most of us have been ordered to shelter in place, and our gyms and many climbing areas are closed, leaving us scrambling to even maintain our strength and skills. Neely Quinn: Cool. Steve Bechtel: I think very often we get into a mindset of, ‘How much can I take? Anyone else tried that? 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